Re: Christians in uniform

[jobee]

Why are Christians volunteering to kill.

Thousands of Christians are in the US and UK Armed forces volunteering to kill [including padres].

What happened to 'thou shall not kill'.

[Dretlin]

Why are Christians volunteering to kill.

Thousands of Christians are in the US and UK Armed forces volunteering to kill [including padres].

What happened to 'thou shall not kill'.

Could you expand on what you mean exactly?

Religious values can be seen to stand alongside cultural ones. Such as defending a nations values and interests.

Even though this can be seen as a contradiction. Is this what you are referring to?

[Whitney]

FYI, the OP is unlikely to respond coherently to your posts; please see his intro thread replies for al ink to how he acted on raving atheist.

[jobee]

Why are Christians volunteering to kill.

Thousands of Christians are in the US and UK Armed forces volunteering to kill [including padres].

What happened to 'thou shall not kill'.

Could you expand on what you mean exactly?

Religious values can be seen to stand alongside cultural ones. Such as defending a nations values and interests.

Even though this can be seen as a contradiction. Is this what you are referring to?

 Either Christianity is pacifist, or it is not. No Iraqi attacked the US or UK for political or religious reasons.

Aside from that, I want to know why Christians are volunteering to kill at all.

Their famous sixth is quite specific [thou shall not kill].

[jobee]

FYI, the OP is unlikely to respond coherently to your posts; please see his intro thread replies for al ink to how he acted on raving atheist.

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Would you kindly discuss the topic, not the poster.
Raving atheists attacked me as soon as i posted two atheist posts. Why? i dont know.

[Dretlin]

As I said in my previous post, perhaps when one feels they are defending their values and beliefs - that is defending their god/gods/unicorns or whatever people decide they want to worship.

[Whitney]

Would you kindly discuss the topic, not the poster.
Raving atheists attacked me as soon as i posted two atheist posts. Why? i dont know.

Maybe it was because you posted the same thing more than once like you did here just before I wrote what you responded to above?

[Sophus]

Why are Christians volunteering to kill.

Thousands of Christians are in the US and UK Armed forces volunteering to kill [including padres].

What happened to 'thou shall not kill'.

Technically, it says Thou shalt not murder (unlawful killing). Nothing unlawful about killing in war.

[jobee]

Would you kindly discuss the topic, not the poster.
Raving atheists attacked me as soon as i posted two atheist posts. Why? i dont know.

Maybe it was because you posted the same thing more than once like you did here just before I wrote what you responded to above?

Maybe is because you addressed the poster and not the post. The same as raving atheist did.

I'll try again, why are Christians volunteering to kill, 'anywhere' governments send them.

Thousands went killing in Vietnam when they must have known the Vietnamese people had every right to unite their own

country if they wish to do so.

What happened to 'thou shall not kill'. Please answer the post.

[SSY]

If you have the conviction that an all powerful god loves you, then it becomes easy to rationalise, "Oh, well, this might be a bit dodgy, but god loves me, and I am more or less decent, I am sure god will let me into heaven", it of course helps that god is American, and the people you happen to be killing are godless heathens. People largely pick and choose what they want from the bible, so they can justify their own actions, while condemning people they don't like, it should be no surprise they do that in this instance also, it's easy, "Oh, that old testament stuff does not apply to me, Jesus sorted it out by getting hung like a picture for us" or during the crusades , "The people I am killing are blasphemers, the pope said they don't even have souls, killing them is fine in god's eyes I'm sure"

Just so you know, telling the owner of the site what to do, on her own forums, is not the wisest move in the world, even if she normally is pretty level headed.

[Whitney]

Just so you know, telling the owner of the site what to do, on her own forums, is not the wisest move in the world, even if she normally is pretty level headed.

Indeed.

[jobee]

As I said in my previous post, perhaps when one feels they are defending their values and beliefs - that is defending their god/gods/unicorns or whatever people decide they want to worship.

So they are doing what they like, Christian morals no longer exist.

[jobee]

If you have the conviction that an all powerful god loves you, then it becomes easy to rationalise, "Oh, well, this might be a bit dodgy, but god loves me, and I am more or less decent, I am sure god will let me into heaven", it of course helps that god is American, and the people you happen to be killing are godless heathens. People largely pick and choose what they want from the bible, so they can justify their own actions, while condemning people they don't like, it should be no surprise they do that in this instance also, it's easy, "Oh, that old testament stuff does not apply to me, Jesus sorted it out by getting hung like a picture for us" or during the crusades , "The people I am killing are blasphemers, the pope said they don't even have souls, killing them is fine in god's eyes I'm sure"

Just so you know, telling the owner of the site what to do, on her own forums, is not the wisest move in the world, even if she normally is pretty level headed.

Yes, Tony Blair sent the army killing in Iraq [a country that had done nothing to the UK] after his slaughter the Pope accepted him into the the Catholic Church-nice little twosome.

[Thou shall not kill]

[elliebean]

If I may counter your initial question with an equlivalent question:

Why does an atheist who would, presumably, describe himself as a rational thinker go on an atheist forum to ask atheists to speculate on the motivations of christians?

[Tanker]

Jobee shouldn't this question be directed at Christians.

If I may counter your initial question with an equlivalent question:

Why does an atheist who would, presumably, describe himself as a rational thinker go on an atheist forum to ask atheists to speculate on the motivations of christians?

I ditto this.

You seem to be getting upset that a bunch of Atheists wont give you a straight answer on a subject they can't really know. We can make educated guesses but not really claim deffinitively why anyone who is not us decideds to do anything. Go to a Christian forum I think they may be able to tell how Christian feel about it.