The Truth About Religion (?)

Chimera · July 10, 2009, 09:18:18 PM

I just found these videos on Atheist Nexus and was curious to know what the rest of you think. I don't know a whole lot about the history of the world's religions although I have heard some of these claims. What really got me was the astrological stuff. I looked up some of the things mentioned here, and it all seemed to check out as far as I could tell, but I don't want to go around spouting this stuff as fact...the skeptic side of myself won't allow it. LOL

So please, check these out and let me know what you think.

http://atheistnexus.org/video/truth-abo ... -part-1-of

http://atheistnexus.org/video/truth-abo ... ion-2-of-3

http://atheistnexus.org/video/truth-abo ... -part-3-of

Will · July 10, 2009, 09:23:32 PM

I don't have time to watch all three, but so far Horus is totally correct by my understanding, as is Attis, Krishna, Dionysus, and Mithra. The story of Jesus Christ was plagiarized from another god that was plagiarized from other gods. It may have started with Horus or it may have started earlier.

I'm being totally sirius!

Edit: Okay, I got hooked and watched the whole thing. Yes, it seems correct. I didn't find any mistakes.

Chimera · July 10, 2009, 10:00:21 PM

Thanks for checking that out, Will. I trust your judgment. I was absolutely flabbergasted when I saw all the claims those videos made!

Sophus · July 11, 2009, 12:00:29 AM

I'm no expert myself but I have seen experts in Folklore and Historians confirm these sort of claims.

thiolsulfate · July 11, 2009, 12:28:37 AM

It doesn't seem so outrageous.

Romans co-opted the entire Greek Pantheon. I wouldn't be surprised if we found that Christianity was just an amalgamation of an assortment of equally nonsensical cults.

Chimera · July 11, 2009, 12:33:39 AM

It's just...people treat it like it's so real...I myself was ready to die a martyr for the faith before I came to my senses.

Sophus · July 11, 2009, 01:22:28 AM

Quote from: "Chimera"It's just...people treat it like it's so real...I myself was ready to die a martyr for the faith before I came to my senses.

Same here. It's so sad that people value, not only faith over their own lives, but over others. People like the girl at the Columbine shooting are praised, idolized and used as role models. I don't get it, it's just not something to die for. Then again, they don't think death is the end. :shake:

thiolsulfate · July 11, 2009, 02:27:45 AM

Quote from: "Sophus"Same here. It's so sad that people value, not only faith over their own lives, but over others. People like the girl at the Columbine shooting are praised, idolized and used as role models. I don't get it, it's just not something to die for. Then again, they don't think death is the end.

Actually, according to the FBI report, she said nothing of the sort. The two nutcases didn't ask that question.

As much as it may have brought some degree of comfort to her grieving parents, it's still a lie -- not even a really worthwhile lie -- unless, to her parents, her worth to them was measured by her faith.

Heretical Rants · July 11, 2009, 03:08:26 AM

I swear I've seen this exact video before...

Probably in Zeitgeist.

Sophus · July 11, 2009, 03:37:27 AM

Quote from: "thiolsulfate"Actually, according to the FBI report, she said nothing of the sort. The two nutcases didn't ask that question.

As much as it may have brought some degree of comfort to her grieving parents, it's still a lie -- not even a really worthwhile lie -- unless, to her parents, her worth to them was measured by her faith.

Whoa! Not to mention a horrible jab at atheists. Whatever happened to Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness? Makes me think of all the claims of atheists "seeing the light" on their deathbed.

thiolsulfate · July 11, 2009, 04:44:46 AM

Quote from: "Sophus"
Quote from: "thiolsulfate"Actually, according to the FBI report, she said nothing of the sort. The two nutcases didn't ask that question.

As much as it may have brought some degree of comfort to her grieving parents, it's still a lie -- not even a really worthwhile lie -- unless, to her parents, her worth to them was measured by her faith.

Whoa! Not to mention a horrible jab at atheists. Whatever happened to Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness? Makes me think of all the claims of atheists "seeing the light" on their deathbed.

I had the same reaction when I found out. But yeah, it's false. It didn't happen. Those nutcases didn't care about the beliefs of the people they killed, they just wanted to kill.

The rumor was started by a teacher who was hiding who thinks that she heard one of the shooters ask the question. She told the parents who told the preacher of the Evangelical church they attended who then went about canonizing her.

Columbine was tragic enough as it was without that wretched lie.

Tom62 · July 11, 2009, 07:15:18 AM

Quote from: "Heretical Rants"I swear I've seen this exact video before...

Probably in Zeitgeist.

Yes, your are absolutely right. It is from Zeitgeist.

Chimera · July 11, 2009, 07:18:29 AM

What's Zeitgeist?

ETA: Google

is my friend. I'm reading an interesting article on Skeptic.com about the film. It's quite interesting: http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/09-02-25#feature

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The Truth About Religion (?)